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	Comments on: Credit Expiration &#038; Standards Based Grading	</title>
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		By: Evan Weinberg		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2015 07:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/blog_archive/2015/10/15/credit-expiration-standards-based-grading/#comment-408&quot;&gt;Xavier B.&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree that you lose minutes assessing during class, but at least those minutes are lost to something that matters. We show what we value by how we spend our time - it&#039;s our most limited resource. It&#039;s hard to show that reassessment is valued if there is no time for it to occur during the normal schedule.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/blog_archive/2015/10/15/credit-expiration-standards-based-grading/#comment-408">Xavier B.</a>.</p>
<p>I agree that you lose minutes assessing during class, but at least those minutes are lost to something that matters. We show what we value by how we spend our time &#8211; it&#8217;s our most limited resource. It&#8217;s hard to show that reassessment is valued if there is no time for it to occur during the normal schedule.</p>
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		By: Xavier B.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2015 07:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/blog_archive/2015/10/15/credit-expiration-standards-based-grading/#comment-406&quot;&gt;Evan Weinberg&lt;/a&gt;.

We should do it outside the class because these are not compulsory hours.
If we do it in class, then we &quot;lose&quot; minutes. And perhaps you are in a middle of an engagement activity.

But thanks for answering....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/blog_archive/2015/10/15/credit-expiration-standards-based-grading/#comment-406">Evan Weinberg</a>.</p>
<p>We should do it outside the class because these are not compulsory hours.<br />
If we do it in class, then we &#8220;lose&#8221; minutes. And perhaps you are in a middle of an engagement activity.</p>
<p>But thanks for answering&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Evan Weinberg		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2015 08:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/blog_archive/2015/10/15/credit-expiration-standards-based-grading/#comment-403&quot;&gt;Alex Freuman&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for your comments, Alex.

That demonstration that they had done something to prepare was the inspiration for the credits, and came before the credit system. The reason I moved to the more formal system was for accounting purposes - I could get a record of who was doing work, and when. This gave me evidence to use when parents asked if their child was doing the work for the class.

Given the growth mindset concept that SBG strives to inspire in students, I don&#039;t think it will ever be perfect. Perpetual tweaking is required for improvement in many things!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/blog_archive/2015/10/15/credit-expiration-standards-based-grading/#comment-403">Alex Freuman</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments, Alex.</p>
<p>That demonstration that they had done something to prepare was the inspiration for the credits, and came before the credit system. The reason I moved to the more formal system was for accounting purposes &#8211; I could get a record of who was doing work, and when. This gave me evidence to use when parents asked if their child was doing the work for the class.</p>
<p>Given the growth mindset concept that SBG strives to inspire in students, I don&#8217;t think it will ever be perfect. Perpetual tweaking is required for improvement in many things!</p>
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		By: Evan Weinberg		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2015 08:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/blog_archive/2015/10/15/credit-expiration-standards-based-grading/#comment-405&quot;&gt;Xavier&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Xavier,

I give students the option of assessing before or after school, during lunch, or during class. If they sign up to assess during class, then I leave 10 - 15 minutes at the end of class for that purpose. This requires planning, of course, but I&#039;m pretty flexible for students that travel far to get to school and are unable to get to school early or leave later.

I still give unit exams because they provide bulk assessment of the learning standards at one time. I get a good idea of what a student can do with that longer amount of time devoted to assessment. The rest of the time, I assess with a 1-2 question quiz that is usually straight forward to grade so I can get it back to the students with feedback during the class period.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/blog_archive/2015/10/15/credit-expiration-standards-based-grading/#comment-405">Xavier</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Xavier,</p>
<p>I give students the option of assessing before or after school, during lunch, or during class. If they sign up to assess during class, then I leave 10 &#8211; 15 minutes at the end of class for that purpose. This requires planning, of course, but I&#8217;m pretty flexible for students that travel far to get to school and are unable to get to school early or leave later.</p>
<p>I still give unit exams because they provide bulk assessment of the learning standards at one time. I get a good idea of what a student can do with that longer amount of time devoted to assessment. The rest of the time, I assess with a 1-2 question quiz that is usually straight forward to grade so I can get it back to the students with feedback during the class period.</p>
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		By: Xavier		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2015 05:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When do you assess?

I mean: if you assess students individually when they want, then each student take the exam in regular class. So he/she is missing the regular class: his/her partners are taking regular class while he/she is taking the exam.

If you program the tests, then you lost the freedom of choice, that is the essential part of this system, I think.

I think that the only good solution is to have an extra hour for  voluntary assessment. But this is complex in terms of school organization.

In conclusion, when do you assess?

Thanks,
Xavier]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When do you assess?</p>
<p>I mean: if you assess students individually when they want, then each student take the exam in regular class. So he/she is missing the regular class: his/her partners are taking regular class while he/she is taking the exam.</p>
<p>If you program the tests, then you lost the freedom of choice, that is the essential part of this system, I think.</p>
<p>I think that the only good solution is to have an extra hour for  voluntary assessment. But this is complex in terms of school organization.</p>
<p>In conclusion, when do you assess?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Xavier</p>
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		By: Alex Freuman		</title>
		<link>/blog_archive/2015/10/15/credit-expiration-standards-based-grading/#comment-403</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2015 00:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The credit idea is great! I encountered the exact same problems you did. My google form for reassessment was pretty thorough, but students still signed up without proper preparation. One improvement I made that seemed to help was for students to demonstrate to me that they reassessed themselves and they were able to answer a question(s) without help from notes/textbook/etc. They needed to submit their actual work. I got fewer applications for reassessment, but somewhat better results.

I think I&#039;ll never stop tweaking my SBG system.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The credit idea is great! I encountered the exact same problems you did. My google form for reassessment was pretty thorough, but students still signed up without proper preparation. One improvement I made that seemed to help was for students to demonstrate to me that they reassessed themselves and they were able to answer a question(s) without help from notes/textbook/etc. They needed to submit their actual work. I got fewer applications for reassessment, but somewhat better results.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll never stop tweaking my SBG system.</p>
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